What are your thoughts on guns?
Melodie
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Post by Melodie on Oct 19, 2015 2:02:06 GMT
Guns are a very controversial thing, and I'm curious to here everyone's thoughts, so why not discuss them here! Here are my own personal views: I hate guns. They give people so much power. Power that people don't take seriously enough until things like shootings happen in the world. When you point a gun at somebody, you are holding their life in your hands. You have the power to end, and/or change somebody's life in an instant. Think about how much you've been through or achieved in your life and how you would feel if somebody was about to take all of that away from you. Think about what it would do to your loved ones, what you would do if you lost a loved one. Human life is so, so valuable, and something that people don't ever give much thought too. To have the power to take away somebody's life is just the most horrible thing and should NEVER EVER be taken lightly. Yet, people complain about gun laws. They figure they have a right to that power I just spoke of. Now, I absolutely understand those who live out in places where protection from wild animals may be necessary, but I imagine there are ways you could ward off those animals without harming them. Not that a gun isn't a good last resort in that situation, just be as humane about it as you can From what I understand, its a matter of defense. People want to be able to defend themselves, but from what? Other people with guns right? Imagine a world without guns. There would probably still be violence (there would still be knives and fists and anything a person could use to hit somebody with), but I bet far less. It would certainly be easier to deal with a person who runs into a school with a knife than a person who runs in with a gun. But alas, guns are part of our world now, so we have to come up with solutions. I personally think that gun laws should be way stricter. We should treat applications to acquire and own guns as though we are giving people a license to kill. Because in effect, we are. Also, guns should be locked away or made so that they can't be stolen and used for violence be unauthorized people because that is one of the biggest problems (again one that would be solved by the absence of guns) with them currently. Ok, end of rant so what do you guys think?
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Post by Spangoid on Oct 19, 2015 11:54:38 GMT
There is so much I could say about this... But for starters I am glad I live in a country where gun laws are much stricter. Yes people still have guns, people who should not own one, but there is no way to stop them people getting them, just like it's basically impossible to stop people getting drugs. I have only ever met one person who owns guns legally, and that person hunted in the arse end of nowhere.
I live in a really crappy part of London when it comes to violence. I couldn't begin to count how many stabbings I have witnessed over the years, let alone how many I have heard about. There has been no deaths that I personally know of. There has only been a single shooting - This is only my local area. Thankfully there was no long term damage. With the stabbings, it is much harder due to the distance needed between whereas a gun, well you don't have to be close. That is what I find scary about guns compared to other forms of violence.
What pisses me off is parents who give their children toy guns and allow them to shoot at people, regardless if they shoot darts or not. Kids need to understand that guns are dangerous when pointed at people. You are failing your duty as a parent if you neglect to explain just how dangerous they are. For me, the thought that always goes through my head is what if that kid would find a gun one day and shoots it at someone thinking it's a toy?
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Sycohearted
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Post by Sycohearted on Oct 19, 2015 17:42:48 GMT
I am fully for guns. I just wish this shitty country I live in didn't give one to every shady idiot they could find. I have my own gun, I have an AK47. Is it for killing? No. Hunting? No. Show? Yes No. Then what do I use it for? A sense of security to protect myself and my family if I ever need. I am also a full supporter in "Shoot to wound, not to kill." If you MUST kill someone, it should be for a pretty damn good reason. Going and shooting up colleges or killing someone's dog that's pissing on your mailbox is not Okay...A lot of people in stupid America thinks that's what a gun is for. They are given out like candy here and that's the saddest part about it. My father builds guns and collects them. They stay hidden in a safe that only he knows the combination to. Needless to say, I do support guns, but I do wish there were tighter restrictions on them.
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Melodie
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Post by Melodie on Oct 19, 2015 18:34:02 GMT
I am fully for guns. I just wish this shitty country I live in didn't give one to every shady idiot they could find. I have my own gun, I have an AK47. Is it for killing? No. Hunting? No. Show? Yes No. Then what do I use it for? A sense of security to protect myself and my family if I ever need. I am also a full supporter in "Shoot to wound, not to kill." If you MUST kill someone, it should be for a pretty damn good reason. Going and shooting up colleges or killing someone's dog that's pissing on your mailbox is not Okay...A lot of people in stupid America thinks that's what a gun is for. They are given out like candy here and that's the saddest part about it. My father builds guns and collects them. They stay hidden in a safe that only he knows the combination to. Needless to say, I do support guns, but I do wish there were tighter restrictions on them. Thanks for sharing! It's always good to hear both sides of the story Its also interesting to learn what things are like in other parts of the world. For example, where I live, I've never needed a gun to feel secure or protected. I feel quite safe here. I think it would be kind of tough to live somewhere where you need a gun to feel safe I do agree with the points you've made though
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Post by AJ on Oct 21, 2015 1:49:30 GMT
I think gun laws should be a lot more restricted, but I don't see whats wrong with (a completely sane) someone having a handgun. Sure it gives them power, but a level headed person is really only going to use it to protect themselves.
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Post by ping on Nov 27, 2015 21:43:32 GMT
This is the bit I don't get, to argue against nico and Sycohearted: You both say that's its fine to have a gun because you might need it to protect yourself..... but why?? Nobody I know owns a gun and they have never needed to use one to protect themselves. If people in general don't have guns, then there's no need for anyone to have one to protect themselves. It seems the argument always comes back to "Oh yeah, but I might need it to protect myself some day".... really? REALLY? I just don't see this happening I'll admit that the statement " "Shoot to wound, not to kill." If you MUST kill someone, it should be for a pretty damn good reason." ... is a truly terrifying thing to read. Why on Earth are people keeping stuff around that they are knowingly thinking they might deliberately use to wound someone rather than actually kill them, then follow it up with "oh yea, you might actually kill them, but make sure you actually have a good reason first!" I'll freely say: if someone breaks into my house and tries to kill me with a gun (or a knife, tbh), I will probably die, but I would much, MUCH prefer that than the alternative. I find the idea of keeping a weapon like a gun around for the purpose of wounding or even perhaps killing them is totally abhorrent to me. -- ^Above is just my opinion, no offence intended
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Melodie
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Post by Melodie on Dec 1, 2015 7:17:49 GMT
This is the bit I don't get, to argue against nico and Sycohearted: You both say that's its fine to have a gun because you might need it to protect yourself..... but why?? Nobody I know owns a gun and they have never needed to use one to protect themselves. If people in general don't have guns, then there's no need for anyone to have one to protect themselves. It seems the argument always comes back to "Oh yeah, but I might need it to protect myself some day".... really? REALLY? I just don't see this happening Yeah, that's the part that I never understood ether! I keep seeing that being the one big argument for guns and always wondered where its coming from. IF there were no guns in the world (or very VERY strict laws about who is allowed to have them) would you still feel the need to protect yourself?
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Azayles
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Post by Azayles on Dec 1, 2015 14:45:35 GMT
The way I see it, it's something of a strange circular irony when people need guns to protect themselves from other people, who also have guns.
I'll leave you all with this thought: America - 52 school shootings this year alone. England - 1 school shooting. Ever.
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Post by pawlove on Dec 1, 2015 21:37:46 GMT
The way I see it, it's something of a strange circular irony when people need guns to protect themselves from other people, who also have guns. I'll leave you all with this thought: America - 52 school shootings this year alone. England - 1 school shooting. Ever. ^what I thought. Also, I think you are at more risk of getting shot when you are holding a gun. If a malicious person with a gun broke into your home, and you are defenseless, you are less likely to be shot since you could do nothing to stop the person from, say, theft. But if you are armed... it's a game of "they got a gun, I better shoot before getting shot!".
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Post by ⸗April⸗ on Dec 16, 2015 17:53:03 GMT
For those who are behind the argument of getting rid of guns altogether... all I have to say is there is absolutely NO guaranteed way to rid the world of violence, even if you take guns and knives out of the equation. People will adapt to what they have available and if the person is deranged enough to want to kill someone for their own sick twisted pleasure, they will find a way to do it. The only alternative I see that side of the argument leading to is having everyone locked in padded rooms. That may seem a bit black and white to some, but that's the big picture that I see.
I don't know how it is in other parts of America or the world, even, but here in California, it's not easy obtaining a gun. You have to pass a gun safety test and go through an extensive background check and any little blip on your record that even hints at the possibility of someone being unstable will be investigated properly. What I see the problem being, most of the criminals that get their hands on a gun has most likely stolen it, which means that it goes back to the owners of those guns who are not properly locking up their guns. My boyfriend is a gun nut, and he has an AR15, plus multiple handguns so I know a little bit about making sure that EVERYTHING is locked up before leaving the house. We have a standing safe in our bedroom that only he and I have the key to. And his daughter has grown up shooting at the gun range since she was 8 years old, and has learned everything there is to know about gun safety from her dad and her grandfather who was in the Navy. Needless to say, we take gun safety VERY seriously in this house.
Anyway, I do support the owning of guns, as long as the process of who ends up with one in their hand is heavily controlled.
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